Martin Armstrong’s Economic Pi Cycle

I have been doing a lot of work on economic cycles recently and have been unable to find any of Martin Armstrong’s articles on the internet.  Both the Martin Armstrong Defense Fund and his Princeton Economic Insitute are no longer accessible. 

Luckly, I saved a copy of his "The Business Cycle and the Future" article which was published on the Defense Fund web site.  I’m re-publishing the paper because I think it’s important enough for investors and traders to have ready access to it.  This article was written in September 1999 and identified September 2000 as a major turning point.  Both the S&P 500 and the NYSE made their final highs in that month.  In addition, Armstrong’s work identified November 2002 as a major bottom. 

Armstrong identified January 1st, 2005 as the last important turn date – the date which marked the high for the NASDAQ for the year.  The next turn date won’t come until 2/27/07.  Whether or not that means the market will remain weak until then is unclear, but it certainly wouldn’t come a surprise.  One important thing to remember in looking at all cycles is that the specific date is more important than whether the system identifies it as a high or a low cycle.  The same is true for Martin Armstrong’s cycle work.  Until we come closer to the next cycle point, it won’t be clear whether it will represent a top or a bottom in the markets and economy. 

The Business Cycle And the Future

By Martin A. Armstrong

Princeton Economic Institute
© Copyright September 26, 1999


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For many years, I have pursued a field of study that is at best non-traditional. My discovery of a global business cycle during the early 1970’s was by no means intentional. As a youth growing up in the 1960’s, the atmosphere was anything but stable. I don’t really know if it was Hollywood that captivated my interest in history with an endless series of movies about Roman and Greek history, but whatever it was that drove me, I can only attest to what resulted.

My father had always wanted to return to Europe after serving under General Patton during the war. My mother insisted that she would go only when he could afford to take the whole family. That day finally came and something inside me insisted upon being able to earn my own spending money. I applied for a job despite my age of only 14. It wasn’t much, but on weekends I worked with a coin/bullion dealer. In those days, gold was illegal to buy or sell in bullion form so the industry centered on gold coins issued by Mexico, Hungary and Austria. I soon became familiar with the financial markets as they were starting to emerge. It was this experience that began to conflict with the formal training of school.

One day in a history class, the teacher brought in an old black and white film entitled "Toast of the Town." This film was about Jim Fisk and his attempt to corner the gold market in 1869 that created a major financial panic in which the term "Black Friday" was first coined. In the film was a very young support actor named Cary Grant who stood by the ticker tape machine reading off the latest gold prices. He read the tape and exclaimed that gold had just reached $162 an ounce. I knew from my job that gold was currently selling for $35. At first I thought that the price quote of $162 in the movie must be wrong. After all, Hollywood wasn’t known for truthfulness. Nonetheless, I was compelled to go to the library to check the newspapers of 1869 for myself. This first step in research left me stunned – the New York Times verified $162 was correct.

For the first time in my life, I was faced with a paradox that seemed to conflict with traditional concepts. How could gold be $162 in 1869 and yet be worth only $35 in the 1960’s? Surely, inflation was supposed to be linear. If a dollar was a lot of money in 1869, this meant that adjusted for inflation gold must have been the equivalent of several thousand dollars. If value was not linear, then was anything linear?

I began exploring the field of economics on my own and reading the various debates over the existance of a business cycle. Kondratieff was interesting for his vision of great waves of economic activity. Of course, others argued that such oscillations were purely random. Over the years that followed, this nagging question still bothered me. I had poured my heart and soul into history, quickly learning that all civilizations rose and fell and there seemed to be no exception.

I was still not yet convinced that a business cycle was actually definable. Kondratieff’s work was indeed interesting, but there was not enough data to say that it was in fact correct. On the other hand, it seemed that the random theory crowd was somehow threatened by the notion that the business cycle might be definable. After all, if the business cycle could be defined, then perhaps man’s intervention would not be successful. Clearly, there was a large degree of self-interest in discouraging any attempt to define the business cycle. I knew from my study of history that a non-professional German industrialist took Homer and set out to disprove the academics who argued that Homer was merely a story for children. In the end, that untrained believer in Homer discovered Troy and just about every other famous Greek city that was not supposed to have existed beyond fable.

I didn’t know how to go about such a quest to find if the business cycle was definable. Admittedly, I began with the very basic naive approach of simply adding up all the financial panics between 1683 and 1907 and dividing 224 years by the number of panics being 26 yielding 8.6 years. Well, this didn’t seem to be very valid at first, but it did allow for a greater amount of data to be tested compared to merely 3 waves described by Kondratieff.

The more I began to back test this 8.6-year average, the more accurate it seemed to be. I spent countless hours in libraries reading contemporary accounts of events around these dates. It soon became clear that there were issues of intensity and shifts in public confidence. During some periods, society seemed to distrust government and after a good boom bust cycle, sentiment shifted as people ran into the arms of government for solutions. Politics seemed to ebb and flow in harmony with the business cycle. Destroy an economy and someone like Hitler can rise to power very easily. If everyone is fat and happy, they will elect to ignore drastic change preferring not to rock the boat.

The issue of intensity seemed to revolve around periods of 51.6 years, which was in reality a group of 6 individual business cycles of 8.6 years in length. Back testing into ancient history seemed to reveal that the business cycle concept was alive and well during the Greek Empire as well as Rome and all others that followed. It was a natural step to see if one could project into the future and determine if its validity would still hold up. Using 1929.75 as a reference point, major and minor turning points could then be projected forward in time. For the most part, I merely observed and kept to myself this strange way of thinking. In 1976, one of these 8.6-year turning points was quickly approaching (1977.05). For the first time, I began to use this model expecting a significant turn in the economy back toward inflation. My friends thought I was mad. Everyone was talking about how another Great Depression was coming. The stock market had crashed by 50% and OPEC seemed to be undermining everything. I rolled the dice and stuck to it and to my amazement, inflation exploded right on cue as gold rallied from $103 to $875 by January 1980.

As my confidence in this model increased, I began to expand my research testing it against everything I could find. It became clear, that turning points were definable, but the wildcard would always remain as a combination of volatility and intensity. To solve that problem, much more sophisticated modeling became necessary.

As the 51.6-year turning point approached (1981.35), there was no doubt in my mind that the intensity would be monumental. Indeed, interest rates went crazy with prime reaching 22% and the discount rate being pushed up to 17%. The government was attacking inflation so hard, they moved into overkill causing a massive recession into the next half-cycle date of 1985.65. It was at this point in time that the Plaza Accord gave birth of the G5. I tried to warn the US government that manipulating the currency would set in motion a progressive trend toward higher volatility within the capital markets and the global business cycle as a whole. They ignored me and claimed that until someone else had such a model, they did not believe that volatility would be a concern.

The next quarter cycle turning point was arriving 1987.8 and the Crash of 1987 unfolded right on cue. It was at this time that a truly amazing development took place. The target date of 1987.8 was precisely October 19th, 1987 the day of the low. While individual models specifically based upon the stock market were successful in pinpointing the high and low days, I did not think for one moment that a business cycle that was derived from an average could pinpoint a precise day; it simply did not seem logical.

After 1987, I began to explore the possibility that coincidence should not be just assumed. I began researching this model even more with the possibility that precision, no matter how illogical, might possibly exist. I began viewing this business cycle not from a mere economic perspective, but from physics and math. If this business cycle were indeed real, then perhaps other fields of science would hold a clue to this mystery. Physics helped me understand the mechanism that would drive the business cycle but mathematics would perhaps answer the quantitative mystery. I soon began to understand that the circle is a perfect order. Clearly, major historical events that took place in conjunction with this model involved the forces of nature as well. If this business cycle was significant, surely it must encompass something more than the mere economic footprints of mankind throughout the ages.

The Mystery of 8.6

At first, 8.6 seemed to be a rather odd number that just didn’t fit mathematically. In trying to test the validity of October 19th, 1987 being precise or coincidence, I stumbled upon something I never expected. This is the first time I will reveal something that I discovered and kept secret for the last 13 years. The total number of days within an 8.6-year business cycle was 3141. In reality, the 8.6-year cycle was equal to p (Pi) * 1000. Suddenly, there was clearly more at work than mere coincidence. Through extending my studies into physics, it became obvious that randomness was not a possibility. The number of variables involved in projecting the future course of the business cycle was massive, but not completely impossible given sufficient computer power and a truly comprehensive database. The relationship of 8.6 to p (Pi) confirmed that indeed the business cycle was in fact a perfect natural cyclical phenomenon that warranted further investigation. Indeed, the precision to a day appeared numerous times around the world in different markets. Both the 1994.25 and the 1998.55 turning points also produced clear events precisely to the day. The probability of coincidence of so many targets being that precise to the day was well into the billions. Indeed, the relationship of p to the business cycle demonstrated the existence of a perfect cycle that returned to its point of origin where once again it would start anew. The complexity that arose was that while the cycle could be measured and predicted, precisely which sector of the global economy would become the focal point emerged as the new research challenge.

It was also clear that the driving forces behind the business cycle had shifted and intensified due to the introduction of the floating exchange rate system back in 1971. My study into intensity and volatility revealed that whenever the value of money became uncertain, inflation would rise dramatically as money ceased to be a store of wealth. Numerous periods of debasements and floating exchange rate systems had taken place throughout recorded history. The data available from Rome itself was a spectacular resource for determining hard rules as to how capital responded to standard economic events of debasement and inflation. The concept of Adam Smith’s Invisible Hand was valid, but even on a much grander scale involving capital flow movement between competing economies. The overall intensity of the cycle was decisively enhanced creating greater waves as measured by amplitude by the floating exchange system. As currency values began to swing by 40% in 4-year intervals, the cycle intensified even further causing currency swings of 40% within 2-year intervals and finally down to a matter of months following the July 20th, 1998 turning point.

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The Domino Effect

The events that followed 1987 were all too easy to foresee. The G5 talked the dollar down by 40% between 1985 and 1987 essentially telling foreign capital to get out. The Japanese obliged and their own capital contraction led to the next bubble top at the peak of the 8.6-year cycle that was now due 1989.95. As the Japanese took their money home for investment, the value of their currency rose as did their assets thereby attracting global investment as well. Everyone was there in Tokyo in late 1989. Just about every investment fund manager globally was touting the virtues of Japan. As the Japanese bubble peaked, capital had acquired a taste for foreign investment. That now savvy pool of international investment capital turned with an eye towards South East Asia. Right on cue, the capital shifted moving into South East Asia for the duration of the next half-cycle of 4.3 years until it too reached its point of maximum intensity going into 1994.25. At this point, international capital began to shift again turning back to the United States and Europe, thus causing the beginning of a new bull market in a similar manner to what had happened in Japan. In fact, 1994.25 was once again the precise day of the low on the S&P 500 for that year. As American and European investment returned home, the steady outflow of capital from South East Asia finally led to the Asian Crisis in 1997. In both cases, Japan and South East Asia blamed outsiders and sought to impose punitive measures to artificially support their markets. In Japan, these interventions have left the Postal Savings Fund insolvent as public money was used to support the JGB market. Financial institutions were encouraged to hide their losses and even employees from the Minister of Finance were installed in some cases engaging in loss postponing transactions of every kind. Major life companies were told not to hedge their risks for fear that this would make the markets decline even further. Thus, the demise of Japan that would have been complete by 1994 was extended by government intervention that has most likely resulted in a lengthening of the business cycle decline into 2002.85.

The next peak on the 8.6-year business cycle came in at 1998.55, which was precisely July 20th, 1998. While the intensity was defined rather well by the model’s forecast of 6,000 on the Dow by the quarter-cycle target of 1996.4 followed by 10,000 for 1998, the development of highly leveraged hedge funds created a trap that was not fully anticipated. It was clear that the European markets had captured the greatest intensity between 1996 and 1998 and that Russia too had reached our target for maximum intensity. However, the excessive leveraging of funds like Long-Term Capital Management had significantly created the peak in volume as well. Thus, the spread trades were so excessive, that the collapse that was to be expected, took on a virus type of affect. As Russia moved into default, and LTCM moved into default, the degree of leverage caused a cascade of liquidation that was spread around the world. Everything became affected causing the collapse in liquidity and credit to further undermine the global economy as a whole. Despite the new highs in US indices into 1999, the broader market has failed to keep pace and the peak in both liquidity and volume remains clearly that of 1998.55.

The Future

While this business cycle can be calculated on quarter-cycle intervals of 2.15 years into the final peak for this major wave formation of December 24th, 2032. Though this is long beyond my life expectancy, there is so much more behind the true understanding of the driving forces within the business cycle. I have learned that it is easy to claim coincidence and ignore the telltale signs of a hidden order. It is easy to argue that there is no basis for such a model without ever making an effort to test results. If everyone stopped with such criticism, most of ancient Greece would still be buried and Homer would still be considered a book for children. Man would not fly or travel to the moon. A cure for cancer would not be sought and progress would simply not exist. But furthering our understanding is part of humanity. Like law, that when strictly enforced deprives society of justice when circumstances are ignored, it is also the sin of ignorance toward new concepts that deprives mankind of progress and ultimately our posterity.

The Economic Confidence Model in 2.15-year intervals

1998.55… 07/20/98

2000.7…. 09/13/00

2002.85… 11/08/02

2005…. 01/02/05

2007.15… 02/27/07

2009.3… 04/23/09

2011.45… 06/18/11

2013.6… 08/12/13

2015.75… 10/07/15

2017.9… 12/01/17

2020.05… 01/26/20

2022.2… 03/22/22

2024.35… 05/16/24

2026.5… 07/11/26

2028.65… 09/04/28

2030.8… 10/30/30

2032.95… 12/24/32

In the next issue of the WCMR, the details of this business cycle will be expanded to provide a list of turning points down to the 8.6-month interval. There is a wealth of knowledge that lies ahead if we are not afraid to explore. Regularity of the business cycle does not mean that we lack free will. For it has taken me 30 years of observation to get this far. The peak for one nation may be the low for another. For within the scheme of global capital flows, not everyone can enjoy a boom simultaneously. For every gain in trade, there must be someone who loses. This is simply the nature of the global economy. The greatest booms unfold when capital concentrates in one sector. When that capital shifts, you also find the result of the greatest financial panics in history. An individual will always possess the free will to follow the crowd or strike out with his own independence to buck the trend. There will be those who believe in the business cycle and use it to their advantage just as there will be those who refuse to acknowledge its existence. As long as not everyone believes, the cycle will exist forever. The regularity of the business cycle is not determined by man alone; for within its deep calculations resides the very heart of nature itself. Like the Biblical forecast of Joseph that seven years of plenty will be followed by seven years of famine, understanding the nature of the business cycle can certainly enhance our ability to better manage our affairs rather than constantly add to the intensity of the cycle through our own error of intervention. For now, it is more likely that the politics will continue to act in the opposite direction of the cycle adding to its intensity and enhancing its volatility. Perhaps I have been an evangelist seeking to point out that the economy is like a rain forest – destroy one species and it will ripple through the entire system. The global economy to me is the same delicate system that cannot be viewed in isolation, but only through its collective integration. The failed labor policies of Europe have created perpetually high unemployment and the worst record of economic growth for the past 30 years. Instead of objectively reviewing what has happened, Europe seeks to federalize and strengthen the very controls that already exist. Communism and socialism are all political byproducts of our failure to understand the business cycle. Blaming the rich, your neighbor or a particular race are all vain quests to explain the cause of a cycle that has moved through the boom bust phase. Who knows, perhaps it is possible that if for one moment we truly understood the business cycle and worked in harmony with it, the possibility of reducing the amplitude just might result in a more stable political-economy for all mankind.

297 thoughts on “Martin Armstrong’s Economic Pi Cycle”

  1. major top in gold and oil by 1/7 2008 sell into the rally in gold massive bear ito 10/2010 low gold will end 2008 about 590my targets for the top have been 880 to 910 with outside 965 to973

  2. Gold may be topping here but it won’t drop much. Gold stocks like NEM and ABX could correct significantly but the metal itself won’t suffer any major price erosion. Similarly, oil won’t see an appreciable decline in price for the remainder of 2008. It has nothing to do with supply or demand but the price will be entirely driven by sentiment as it has always been for the duration of the bull run in crude over the past few years. The world is awash in oil but the price keeps going up. What’s driving it?

    Sentiment.

    As for the stock market, I see a powerful rally ahead that will take a lot of people by surprise. The market is setting up a major move and while there could be more selling in the next couple of weeks, we’re going much higher this year.

  3. we are enetering the window of time 1/7 2008 crash low longterm investor buy djt into 4150 mit major low gold and oil and grain s just starting to crash and start the bear in inflation cycle

  4. This is to “bill signorile aka the wavetimerny”

    I doubt anyone can understand what you’re saying. There’s no capitalization, punctuation, or any semblance of coherent sentence structure in your posts. Maybe you have something relevant to say but sadly, no one knows what you’re trying to convey. When I read your “sentences,” I see words jumbled together but little meaning.

  5. Bill’s prediction on the market movement provide valuable insights to many readers on this board. He takes the time to share his wisdom and knowledge with us and not expecting anything back. To me he is the great and trusted guru on this board and his opinions often in agreement with the top market analyst in the country. If Turtler could not understand what Bill is talking about, he should move on and not trying to cast any discouraging words on Bill. The board is in perfect harmony, please leave it as it is. Thanks again Bill.

  6. evening all i will make this very short my cycle is lookig to bottom 1/7 to open on the 8. the djt should be a major bottom at 4135 to 4150 buy airline and truckers and short oil ow and gold and all grains a major change from inflation to deflation buy all banks on close 1/7 and brokers gm f hd ba cit xlf xlu spy and qqqq at 46. 75 stay away from aapl goog rimm and bidu i have been short these for 4 days now us $ is also going to be bottoming i the next few days gold and oil to start to crash and start its bear market into 10 2010 fed to lower rates 50 to 75 basis points stocks that are beated down will rally much better this will be a spike crash low and and we will rally to 1535 sp into late feb if we spike i need one piece of the puzzle the vix to get above 26 to 27 relax and lets my cycles work will post again mon nite

  7. START TO BUY DJT LOOK AT TRUCKERS AIRLINES AND SOME RAIL GOLD I AM 50% AND OIL AND GRAINS 100% LOOKING TO ADD TO SHORT GOLD ON ANY RALLY 100% LONG BANKS AND BROKERS XLF XLU AND GM HD F EVERY STOCK THAT WAS BEATEN DOWN LAST YEAR AND WOULD NEVER BUY ANY OF THE HIGH FLY AKA I TOOK IT DOWN TO 172 BUT WOULD BUY QQQQ 50% NOW AND REST ON NEW LOW INTO MY TARGET BEST OF TRADES

  8. all traders should now be short 50% gold sector as of this post move to 100 % at 880 mit as for stock you should be long banks xlf xlu gm f hd brokers cycle could be turning i will hold the all clear till i see 5 waves up we still could drop to e low before 11 am today but by 1/10 the cycle will be up lookig for 1535 i am short oil 100% ad gold and grains and stocks like pot mon 50 5 long qqqq will at at 46.60 mit still if sp break 1403 low buy into 1390 area call options

  9. it is with a heavy heart that this will be my last post I have found that my work has been used by more that a few brokers and they have pushed it off as their work which amounts to stealing my work for the investors who want my email it is [email protected] my very best to all and best of trades

  10. one last thig to all is that oil at 100$is only good for the bush family and the arabs so they can buy the us and the bush family has sold the usa for wealth and control remember that in nov

  11. To Bill Signorile:

    The Arabs are injecting capital into the USA which enables your call for the financials to rally. Prince Alaweed is buying more Citibank to keep it afloat. China is also investing in Citibank. As the current crisis continues, I’d expect a lot more chunks of this country’s financial infrastructure to be sold off to foreigners who are armed with billions of oil profits that have to go somewhere.

    Can you also point out who is stealing your work? I’m curious about this statement since most brokers calls have been bearish these past few weeks. Goldman and Merrill are even touting Recession which seems out of character but maybe they’ve got big bets against the market and they need those positions to be profitable. Would be interested in hearing your views.

  12. Just looking at IYF or XLF the financial sector index, it has been moving very much in line with Marty’s dates Major date 2/27/07 very close to all time high, weekly date 3/5/07 got a short term bounce, weekly date 11/21/07 another bounce… the next turn is a minor turn on his yearly cycle 3/23/08 I’m looking for a bit of a turn around on that date… Marty has been saying that 4/23/09 to 6/18/11 is going to be epic major down moves in the market with gold rallying to 2000

  13. Whermacht and all:

    Armstrong’s book The Greatest Bull Market in History can be downloaded at http://web.archive.org/web/19980523082828/http:/www.princetoneconomics.com/Research/GBM/GBM-MAST.HTM

    I would also like to recommend http://www.borisc.blogspot.com to traders and investors. Boris is a genius who has his own unique instruments, which are explained at the site. The site will reward study (less study needed for traders who are already experienced). You will see that Boris can be asked any question, but if you ever feel you have a “dumb” question that you’re reluctant to bother him with, you can ask me at [email protected] – being far from a genius myself, I have had to seek answers to many “dumb” questions at borisc and elsewhere over the past year, so might have an answer.

    Some smart people turn up to evaluate Boris from time to time and make valuable contributions at borisc. Two of them have subsequently set up their own blogs so they can more easily display their charts (while continuing to contribute at borisc): Mark Lytle and Mark Peltier; they are linked from borisc. Don’t forget to vote for Mark Peltier if you link from his site to view his charts at Stockcharts!

    Good Trading
    Malcolm

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  15. Bill,
    You have the nerve to say Martin Armstrong is a fake while the fact is that your a retired firefighter and not some ex-trader like you claim and now you take Martin Armstrongs turn date and claim it as your own. Hows the gold short and next great bull market doing since your big jan 7 date? Don’t get me wrong I enjoy reading others opinions as much as anyone but please don’t misrepresent yourself and blast someone with true abilities

  16. no, the 2007 date was not “off by a few days”. It was right on !. the model identifies 2/24/07. That was a Saturday. The following Monday , 2/26, was a national holiday ! The next trading day was the 27th !

  17. I believe we have just seen our turn, his dates aren’t meant to be the exact day the market turns but the announcement today that takes affect the week of the 23rd sounds a lot like a direct hit

  18. whats wrong with this site i post and shows the person anme before me on my work i gave 1/9 as a major low and also said two thing alt dates 1/18 and 3/10 to 3/23 2008 i say record highs into sept to jan of 2009 and then bear housing is down till late 2010 and oil is at the end 110 to 118 but thing the top is in in oil and gold can see 1033 before the next phase of bear markets in inflation sectors

  19. The March 24th date looks like it is a perfect storm to form a bottom in the market.

  20. This guy is a luny. I can’t believe that he is basing all this off of gold prices rising in the 1960’s. Anyone who believes him is a total luny. I see why the CIA put him in jail, he is crazy.

  21. FINAL SIGN OF THE PANIC LOW AS ALOT OF YOU HAVE READ MY POSTS FOR LAST 9 MONTHS CALLING THE FINAL BLOWOFF IN OIL AND GOLD AND CRASH IN STOCK S ARE HERE 3/10 TO 3/23 WINDOW MY FOCUS DATE IS 3/18 SP LOW SHOULD BE 1206 AND DOW 11557 IF WE BREAK THESE BY 1% THE ALT TARGET FROM 1932 LOW COMES INTO PLAY 10907 IT WILL BE HIT BY 10.30 AM LASTEST ON 3/24 GOLD HIT MY 1033 AND OIL HAS HIT THE WALL INTO MY 110 TO 118 LOOK FOR MASSIVE CRASH NEXT IN INFLATION STOCKS AND ALL COMMODITIES THAT THE BAD NEWS NOW THE GOOD NEWS THE DOW AND SP AND US $ ARE SETUP FOR NEXT BULL MARKET WE WILL SEE THE FINAL BULL HIGH IN LATE SEPT09 TO JAN 2009 OIL WILL DROP BACK INTO 59 BY THIS TIME AND GOLD SHOULD SEE 590 TO 660 INTO FEB OF 2009 ONCE THE 5 WAVE BLOWOFF COMES IN WORLD WIDE STOCK MARKETS WE THEN START THE TRUE CRASH AND LEG DOWN INTO 10 2010 LOW SIGNED BILL AKA WAVETIMER

  22. odds favor that the cycles i have talked about are turning in a massive wave worldwide 3/10 3/23 focus 3/18 and looks good to rally into final bull market top 9/30 2008 to 1/20 2009 the massive crash in commodities has started for the next 30 months down into 10 2010low

  23. Very keen and sharp economics mind has Martin Armstrong. If we do actually react ‘unconsciously’ from fears and hopes then his model is likely to be predictive as a natural cycle.
    Geoff Dodd Australia.

  24. All this is puzzling. Does all of Armstrong’s research invalidate
    Foundation for Cycle Research studies. There is little evidence of
    studies [cyclical] that can pinpoint to the day any type of human
    event. COMMERCE is human activity in motion. Perhaps, there remains
    possibilities that economic downdrafts/updrafts can me quantified within
    the context of a large time frame ie. months/1yr.
    Yes, the article, inquestion, written in 1999 stirs much interest. The reams of data he fed into his model is not being doubted. Only what has
    been subjectively extrapolated. I am learning much from all these posts-
    very intelligent crowd here. klaudenhemet-

  25. Interesting to note that 22/3/08 was the on or about the date that the Fed finally opend the window to complete garbage, saved the investment banks and have thus completely changed the game. This is clearly a very major turning point in global finance.

    What will happen on or about 23 April 09?

    I predict (with the help of Jim Sinclair) that 18/06/11 will be either the bottom in the US$ or the return of the gold standard.

  26. On or about 22 March 2008 the fed opend the window to complete garbage and changed the world as we know it.

    On or about 18 June 2011 we will see the bottom in the US$ and or the return of the gold standard

  27. how vain and naive to think we have such control over our lives…read the science of achievement-decoding potential.. then look at people like armstrong,gann and elliot…

  28. in the Chinese system of Feng Shui, the reference to the numbers 8,6 and 1 are synonymous with material wealth. so it should not come as a surprise that we find a cycle of 8.6 years, in fact the Chinese Flying Star system records similar cycle pattern of human behaviour. To say that the Asian knowledge or history does not reflect those same principles is silly: the Greeks got much of their knowledge from the Indian mathmatical system, the knowledge was in Asia all the while, just that no-one went to apply it quite the way Mr Armstrong does. Apart from just looking at the material wealth cycle, there are other relevant cycles in the Feng Shui system relating to the emotional and spiritual development of people, and only when we start reading all and start putting 2 & 2 together, will we be able not just to verify the statements of Armstrong, but decidedly go beyond that. i like the comment that we are meant to learn, to deal with the cycles and rules that are there and stop stumbling from one pot hole to the next. Another strong hint lies in when Martin is expected to be released. it is rather close to what is considered the end of one the biggest known cycles of human evolution (Maya calender, Indian Hindu calender), and his own predicted time of a real low point in economics. In all likelihood, it is a promise that Martin will be able to come back to help in sorting out the mess we have created till then.

  29. Nice, Martin Armstrong predicted crash ’08 March, right when Bear Stearn went bankrupt to end the cycle. Cycles are in all parts of life and I find it very ingenious of Martin to use it in investing.

  30. Funny how this site went from number one on a martin armstrong google search for 2 years to unfindable unless you type in martin armstrong contra

  31. I do not know legal issues about Mr Armstrong but keenly awaiting his release and also keen to watch relaunch of its website. I have read some good articles during his fight with gold and silver bugs. While i do not have much knowledge about cycles, the logic expressed by Mr Armstrong and his long hisotry about market crashes he has put on his web was utterly amazing. It was my grave mistake that i could store the content. Regardless of Mr Armstrong’s release, financial history given in web must be made available to students or schollers active in financial markets.

  32. well back in late dec 2007,I had forcasted a move from inflation to massive deflation as of this writing we are 40% thur this wave we should see a low in world stock markets on or about 10/10/2008 and a very strong rally about 15% into jan 2009and then the next leg down final low due 10/10/2010 .i do see the FDIC RASING LIMITS TO 500K TO 1M VERY SOON

  33. THE ABOVE POST FOR 9/30 ABOUT FDIC IS THAT OF WAVETIMER.AND A P.S FOR ALL TO READ THIS IS THE FINAL PIECE OFTHE PUZZLE FOR THE PNAC TO TAKE CONTROL !!! ITS TIME FOR ALL TO WRITE AND CALL YOUR CONGRESSMAN AND TELL THEM TO VOTE NO! ON ANY AND ALL BILLS TO PUT MONEY INTO FED UNLESS WE HAVE A CLEAR INVESTIGATION BY THE FBI INTO ALL OF WALL STREET BEST OF TRADES AND GOD BLESS IF ANYONE NEED THEY EMAIL ME AT [email protected]

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